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Report Coxs Epicurean July 9, Battle of bands, Acrobax

On 9 July, a meeting was held horizontally with respect to the philosophical Loa Acrobax the conflict in Rome.

has formed a group of about 15 members.

E 'was read with a short text that Discussion followed about an hour.



Text: Paul Watzlawitck, The invented reality, contributions to constructivism (1981), Feltrinelli, Rome 1988, pp .149-151.


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Questions raised:

- who is not in favor, is really against?

- We need to feel different?

- It is true that man is in search of perfection?

- How do you recognize beauty?

- Democracy is freedom?

- What happens is always defined?

- How often the denial is a form of defense?

- The search is always in need of an end?

- The logic helps to split into opposites?


Discussion topic chosen: "What happens is always defined (negation, opposite, end)? "


After the questions the community observed a similarity between the last 4 issues, deciding for the first of four which in a sense, included. The second question (we need to hear different?) In a sense was part of the chosen question.

After searching for a few minutes to answer the question whether what happens is always defined, many members of the group, in various ways, as highlighted define what happens as right or wrong, Good or bad, etc. .. is an unavoidable fact of life, one can not do without, but subjective.

The focus was then located on the phrase "what happens" because, as reported who had made had not been chosen at random.

What happens always returns to a subject (active or passive) in which the event happens (passive) or who makes it happen (on).

The same occurrence will be defined in different ways by those implementing it, by those who suffer or who observes it from different points of view. (A B. C is attacked by the newspaper of the aggression to A. A, B and C give different interpretations of what the basis of their belief: B was right, B has done wrong, I am ... B)

It was also pointed out that the person (to whom it happens) is always included in a time and in space. This contextualization of the subject is what leads him to define reality on a scale of values, ideas of perfection or set of categories (pairs of opposites), specific to that time and that space. We could say that the subject defines the basis of its culture and knowledge, which may be more or less adherent and conforms to the majority in its social context.

the provocation that brought the subject was then a slave of his time and space, that is the context in which he lived, many components of the research community argue that the subject is not necessarily a slave to the values \u200b\u200bof his time could be very conscious of the environment in which they live and be able to freely choose his point of view, so his way of defining what is happening.

There will always be on the other hand someone who chooses to take sides (differentiate) as a form of preventive defense, at least to feel part of "those who think that way" and against "anyone who thinks another," perhaps referring to an alleged "objectivity". Who says that a position is objective, simply says he wants to be right by force and does not accept that anyone could think otherwise. In a sense, those who cling to objectivity does not recognize the person the freedom to determine on its own "values" or knowledge that can be different, because it contextualizes its claim at a time and space but absolutizes .

Also due external stresses (the other noisy activities would begin with) the facilitator tried to pull the strings of even partial and provisional conclusion.

If it is impossible to define and judge, however, you can try to do it in a conscious and informed, rather than in a superstitious and conformist. (I want to emphasize that the boundary between the two points of view is not entirely clear). Those who had lived in a small mountain village about 100 years ago, would have much less information and far less aware of their judgments. He said the mother told the priest or friends in the square, could be safely the criteria for judging the truth of reality. This is why the emergence of a dictatorship in this type of situation was much easier than today. Some usually subversive suggested that this does not prevent a dictatorship today to succeed. But he needs 100 radio and 100 television stations and newspapers, and various parties to do so.

more the person to whom things happen, is informed and understands the processes through which sets and "constructs" reality, most are free not to belong to opposing views and "objective" of the world and events and to choose, in some cases, di non schierarsi con nessuno dei due eserciti in lotta mortale.

Nel ringraziare la comunità di ricerca vi chiedo anche di ricordarmi la storia del monaco lasciato dalla ragazza che non riusciva a non pensare a lei… così la inserisco!!

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