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On 19 February, at the 16th birthday of CSOA Ex-SNIA, a meeting was held flat on the philosophical theme of "The Politics".
has formed a group of about 15 members.
E 'was read with a short text that Discussion followed about an hour.
The text is an adaptation used by Paolo Rossi for his monologue, freely adapted from the famous speech of Pericles to the Athenians set out in "The War Peloponnese, Tucidite of Book II, 33-46 ( http://www.miti3000.it/mito/biblio/tucidide/peloponneso/secondo_uno.htm)
Address to Athens (Pericles 461 BC). Adapted from Paolo Rossi
Here our government favors the many instead of just a few:
and this is called democracy.
Here in Athens we do like.
laws here provide equal justice for all
in their private disputes, but we never ignore the merits of excellence.
When a citizen stands, then it will be, in preference to other
, called to serve the state, but not as an act of privilege as a
reward merit, and poverty is not an impediment.
Here in Athens we do like.
The freedom we enjoy extends also to their daily life, we do not
we are suspicious of each other and do not ever annoy our next
if our neighbor like to live in his own way.
We are free, free to live just like we like
and yet we are always ready to face any danger.
An Athenian citizen does not neglect public affairs while waiting to
own private affairs, but especially not address the public
business to solve his private matters.
Here in Athens we do like.
We have been taught to respect the magistrates , and we have been taught
also to respect the laws and to never forget that we must protect those who receive
offense.
And we were also taught to observe those unwritten laws that
reside in the universal sense of what is right and what is
common sense.
Here in Athens we do like.
A man who does not care about the state we do not consider it harmless, but useless
, and although a few are able to give life to a
politics, all well here in Athens we can judge it.
We do not regard the discussion as an obstacle on the path of democracy
.
We believe that happiness is the fruit of freedom, but freedom is only the fruit of
value.
So, I proclaim that Athens is the school of Hellas, and that every Athenian
growing developing in him a happy versatility, self-confidence,
readiness to face any situation and that is why
that our city is open to the world and we never expel a foreigner .
Here in Athens we do like
Questions raised:
- What would be the merit, excellence, value?
- In these "many" are included slaves and women?
- There is good? And the bad?
- The past can be a guide for this?
- History and past meets?
- Why do not you use more than a meritocracy?
- Why is the reward of merit must be the service to the state?
- If meritocracy has failed (Athens), we have hope?
- Why only few are able to create a policy?
- The state is on what?
- What "value" is the result of freedom today?
- Common sense and the laws are in contradiction?
Discussion topic chosen: " Common sense and the laws are in contradiction? "
First we tried to figure out what was common sense, the unwritten laws. Even here it was difficult to agree, because if common sense is not shared by everyone is not a "common sense" that applies to everyone, so it's not common sense because it should be something on which everyone agrees.
There has been talk of common sense as an expression of culture and society of a historical period and the fact that the law tends to overlap with the common sense but sometimes it is historically overtaken by social change. So sometimes the law and common sense do not match. Someone said that if there was a shared common sense laws not needed and would a repressive apparatus to enforce them. One answer was that the laws are there because there is a shared common sense.
Others have continued to talk and discuss on the benches of the brewery for a long time yet, but the musical evening had already begun ...
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